TMG Live: DeMarcus & Angela Ware | Episode 293
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Julie and Emily welcome longtime Dallas Cowboy, Super Bowl champ, and Pro Football Hall of Fame DeMarcus Ware and his wife Angela for a candid conversation about football, family and finding perspective. October is breast cancer awareness month, so the ladies teamed up with the Susan G. Komen Foundation for this special remote episode from Truck Yard in Fort Worth, which also features the story of an Army captain in the middle of her own personal battle against cancer.
All that and more in this week’s episode of The Mom Game!
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You're welcome. Speaker 2
Yeah. Thanks for having us. Speaker 0
Absolutely. Julie, you wanna fire away? Speaker 3
Sure. I I told DeMarcus, a second ago. I actually met him back in two thousand seven when I was the reporter for the Cowboys. I mean, it's crazy how much time has passed and how old we are now. Speaker 0
I know. So and I was I've covered the Cowboys too when I was at Fox Sports Southwest, so I met you then, and that was a long, long time ago. Speaker 1
Some time ago. Speaker 3
Like, we're all getting old. We are. Speaker 1
We are. Wiser. Speaker 3
Yeah. That's right. You're older and wiser. Speaker 0
But here's the thing. You look exactly the same. Speaker 3
You really do. We all Speaker 1
age well. Speaker 0
I don't think I don't think it's fair to be quite honest. Right? Yeah. It really is. Speaker 3
Yeah. So to to kinda that point, a lot has happened since then. Obviously, a very illustrious NFL career. You've done can I say, like, everything that you could possibly do as an NFL player winning a Super Bowl, all of the accolades, the Pro Bowls, playing for a long time with the Cowboys, and then you got to kinda go on that extra little trip, go play for Denver and win? Yeah. I there's so much we could talk about there. But I guess the first question would just be, when you look back at it all now, being, you know, not too far removed from the playing days. Yeah. How do you describe it? Speaker 1
I I describe it as a a dream that God gave me an opportunity to live. Right? It's one of those things where as a kid, when you get an opportunity, you, you know, you wanna be a professional athlete. And not only, you know, did God make me a professional athlete, he made me one of the best ever. Right? And then the coolest thing is is, like, all the experiences and everything you get to do, you know, from that. And, I think it's just, like, that that godly dream that you get to live out each and every day. And I I think just put him on that platform because that's what he gave you. So Speaker 0
Are you were you able to to to have that perspective in in the moment, or is it something that came post career? Yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. No. No. No. After it it was totally after. I was like one of those guys and my granddad always told me that just put your head down at the plow, don't worry about anything, and just what's right in front of you. Don't look behind you, beside you, left or right. You just go. And and that's, like, how I lived my life. And and when I retired, like, because I actually had, like, a huge and and my my mom and wife, she got to see it. But all of these newspaper clippings that I kept, I didn't read any of them. And so, like, one day, she was like, hey. Let's go through this box, and let's go through all your memorabilia. And so we get the new home, and she opens up all of these things and, you know, put them all up everywhere. And she said, I wanna surprise you. So I walk into the room, and all the things that you've accomplished, I walk in the room, and I'm like, wow. I mean, I just started tearing up because I didn't even really remember any of it. Yeah. I just was that's what I do. I was just working, but now you go into that room and you're like, okay. Well, I see why now God says you need to be focused. Just focus on the moment because, yes, it's fleeting and it's fast like you o seven and Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
You with the cowboys too. But it's one of those those fleeting moments, but you gotta go back sometime to remember. And that was the coolest Yeah. Thing that, you know, she did for me. Speaker 2
This guy is such a bachelor style. Right? Like, I was going for it. He he got a new house and he had just boxes of stuff. And so we opened these boxes and they're literally like game footballs and like jerseys like thrown in there and just like old cleats all shoved together and like Oh my gosh. These footballs are like signed. Like, they're the Pro Bowl footballs with the entire Pro Bowls Uh-huh. Like, team has signed all of them, and they're just thrown into a box, like Speaker 3
People would kill for this space. Yes. Speaker 2
And I'm like, what are you doing? So I had to, like, I took everyone out. I was like, we need to put cases on these things. Yeah. Speaker 3
We need to keep them. So do you have a whole room now, like, with things on display? Speaker 1
Or I mean, we we've moved from that place now. Speaker 0
Uh-huh. Speaker 1
But I have all of that stuff now. It's kept. And so when we move into our new home Yeah. It's gonna be a place where all that stuff goes and, you know, where the kids can go and see that, you know, hard work really pays off. Speaker 2
Yeah. And Speaker 1
that's what I wanted to say. Not about the celebrity or any other accolades or accomplishing anything. It's just hard work. Just keep it simple. Whatever you can do with yourself and just and just be focused in in what you do, that's what matters. Sure. Speaker 3
Hard work mixed in with some talent. Right? Speaker 0
There's a Speaker 3
lot yeah. Speaker 4
There's a lot. Yeah. Speaker 1
There's a lot of Speaker 3
talent there too. Yeah. Speaker 0
I work real hard hard because I'm not in the Pro Football Hall Speaker 3
of Fame. Okay? Speaker 0
Israel, how did y'all when did y'all meet? How did y'all meet? And and what was kind of that the evolution of that relationship like? Speaker 2
So we met when he was playing for the Broncos. Yeah. And I was managing a restaurant at the base of the building he lived in. Yep. And it was a brand new restaurant who were just opening and, so everybody coming down from the restaurant and, you know, scoping it out or whatever. And I would be in contact with his manager We got him smiling so big. To make his own dinner so I'd be putting in his reservation. She'd call me and be like, okay, here we go. And, one day he was sitting at the bar because I knew who he was, but, like, you know, I just make sure that everything's going smoothly in the restaurant. Right? And he looks at me and goes are you Angela? And I was like, yeah. How do you know my name? He's like, oh yeah. My manager said I need to talk to you. Speaker 3
Oh. I was Speaker 2
like, oh really? Yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. And it and it and it was so cool because I'm like a foodie. Right? So when I was in Denver, I went to all of the hot spots. Like, if it's sushi, if it's barbecue, you name it, I'm always gonna go to the new place that's open. And I think one of the coolest things is that the the the next nice place was right underneath the building where I was living in. And so I go down there and not even thinking about it, but, I mean, for a guy, like, two things I think are the most important thing is, first of all, when you see your wife, and then secondly, when you have a child and you being a family man. And so my wife gave me both of those things. But when I was in there eating, I look up and I'm like, there's my wife. Speaker 3
Like, seriously. Way. Speaker 1
As a man, I said I said, there's my wife. She didn't know that. So I got a opportunity about three times a week, to go down there, and I would just sit there. I would eat. And I'm like, there she is. She would just walk by. She would, like, look at me like, oh, shit. And, like, just walk by. Speaker 0
He's back over here. He's back over here. Speaker 1
It was just being so cool, like, now to, like, go back and look at their story. Even when I was talking to some of my friends, they were like, man. Like, this Angela, the girl that you were talking to this whole time because they see the whole evolution of it Yeah. And how cool it was. Speaker 5
Yeah. Speaker 3
Oh my god. Speaker 0
Yeah. So how long did it take him to propose? Speaker 1
It took a while. It took a while. Speaker 4
It took Speaker 5
a while. Speaker 1
Way too long. Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay. But but to be honest, it's like I made him wait for a really long time to get a date so he probably had to wait six months before he could even get a single date with me because I was like, I don't play that game. I don't I'm not like the stereotype I don't fit in with that. Speaker 6
Like, this is gonna be disappointing. Speaker 2
Like, I'm standard normal person over here. But he wore me down and then I had to wait for a really long time. Speaker 3
Yeah. He he Speaker 2
got you back. He got me Speaker 3
back. I got Speaker 1
it back. He paid that. Speaker 3
Okay. So bring us up to speed now with where y'all are at. Obviously, you have a very adorable son that you brought up here with you today. So tell us what life, like, is like now for y'all. Speaker 1
It it's it's great, because I think, like, now I mean, it was a whirlwind when I retired. I mean, from doing Dancing with the Stars, doing The Masked Singer, the Hall of Fame. Speaker 3
The Masked Singer? Speaker 1
I didn't know. Speaker 4
You did the Masked Singer. Speaker 1
Yeah. And so it was so many Speaker 2
things that Speaker 1
we got to do. So it was just, like, everywhere. Yeah. And, like, now, like, hold on. Let me take a seat back and just be dad. Then you got almost four year old, and I got my fourteen year old son, and he's, you know, ninth grade. And I got my daughter that's about to graduate. She's a senior. So really just everything is, like, about family right now until it's easy to get back into it. But now it's about family and and how we can just keep that nuclear nucleus nucleus tight for for just for the family. Speaker 3
So were you I I just have to step back a little bit to dance Speaker 0
She's going back to back. Yeah. Speaker 3
The Masked Singer. We just watched The Masked Singer, with my kids, like, a couple days ago, and they were they loved it. Right? There's so much to look at. It's so bizarre. Speaker 2
So wild. Speaker 3
Were you there? Like, with him for that part of his journey? What was all that like? And you sang? Speaker 2
Really funny. And this man has so much confidence in himself sometimes. It's shocking. He did not know the words of the song the night before he was supposed to go out and say, I was like, you need to learn the words. Like Yeah. He's like, I'll just look at the teleprompter. And I was like Speaker 3
Oh my gosh. Speaker 2
No. No. Learn the words, please. Speaker 4
Look at that. Yeah. You can embarrass yourself on Speaker 6
national television. Yeah. Speaker 5
You can embarrass Speaker 1
yourself on national television. I I almost did because the scene that I because I was a koala Okay. In in the episode if you wanted to know. Speaker 4
That was Speaker 3
my next question. Speaker 1
And, I she was like, you gotta know the words because you never know what's gonna happen. The teleprompter can go off and Yeah. You know, because it's a lie. True. So I get out there and so I'm the one of the only characters that didn't have a teleprompter. So I'm outside and all of a sudden you just got gotta start singing. I'm coming out of the truck and dancing and looking at the camera and then walking in stage. Walking onto the stage, there's no teleprompter. Speaker 3
Oh my gosh. Speaker 1
And I'm like, holy cow. And that was at them that that, I would that that o h moment. You know, o s moment. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And I was like, alright. I'm so glad I remembered what she said. Yeah. And I started singing the song just like Speaker 3
What song was it? Speaker 1
It was, Oh, Speaker 0
you're singing it too. I can tell. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
Time. You can sing it. We'll back you Speaker 1
up. Everybody Speaker 3
wants to okay. Alright. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's it. Speaker 2
I knew the song I'm like Clearly did not know the words. Knew them for twenty four hours. That's it. Speaker 3
That's it. You raced. Speaker 0
That yeah. Exactly. Exactly. I used to order what you need to store. Speaker 3
Just flush that one. That's right. Speaker 0
Yeah. For sure. So what how much how involved are you with football, watching it, keeping up with it? I mean, you were a cowboy for a very long time. Speaker 6
I feel like a lot Speaker 0
of people still feel like you're one of ours. Speaker 1
I am. Speaker 0
And that that's something that I think is pretty unique to it it it goes up a notch with the cowboys, doesn't it? Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, first of all, like you were just saying, it goes up a notch with the Dallas cowboys. When I say, like, that is, like, the top of the top of all teams when it comes to just America's team, I mean, playing in Denver, it was great. Winning a championship there was great. But the Dallas Cowboys, I can't even, like, describe to you just the aura, the vibe around the whole world. Everywhere that I go, they're like, oh, there's DeMarcus. I'm like, how do you know me? I don't even know your language, but you know the Dallas Cowboys. Speaker 0
Wow. Yeah. Speaker 1
And so it it's so cool, but, keeping up with the sport, I do keep up with the sport, but I can't just watch a game. It goes too slow. Because I'm looking at the plays, I see what the quarterback is saying, and I'm going through it like I'm studying. So I'll watch, like, the highlight reels at the end of the game, or I'll, let the game go and I'll rewind it so I can fast forward it through all of the the stuff. Yeah. So I watch it with my son. I watch it with my family. When it when it's when it's the tailgate party time, like, at the house, it's the popcorn, the wings, the hot dogs. I wanna do it. I'm a fan. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
And so I really bring out bring down the house when it's when it's football time and when I'm in it and when my family's there. So Okay. Yeah. Speaker 3
That has to be pretty cool and also maybe a little bit of an out of body kind of feeling. Like, that was your job, your life for so long. And like you said, it was like that game mode. Right? Nothing else matters. I'm gonna go out there and destroy people for a living. Yeah. Now you get to sit back with your family and watch with popcorn? Speaker 1
I I I have never gotten to be a fan. Speaker 3
Yeah. Speaker 1
And, like, I mean, the focus and getting ready, it's almost like you're a gladiator than a coliseum. When you see the other guy on the other side, I'm gonna crush you. Like, that that was my, like, like, my mind set. But, like, now it's like, oh, that's gone. Who is that guy? And, now it's, like, all about just family, but I take the tailgate serious. I take the tailgating time serious. I take that family time serious. And just all of those moments now as a fan, I'm like, I'm a tell you what, the fans get to have the coolest time. I mean, you can yell at the players. You don't gotta worry about performing. And then it's I can do all that now at at the guys. I can say, hey. This is a play that they shoulda ran. Speaker 3
Right. Speaker 1
You know, like, all of that. I get to do that and and actually truly be a fan now, and I enjoy Speaker 3
it. Angela sorry. I'm were you about to do? I was just gonna say, Angela, are you a big football fan? Speaker 2
Not really. I like it. It's it's fun to watch. I was a Broncos fan my whole life because they had horsies on their helmets when I was five. That's who I was doing, so I stuck with them. I love the Cowboys organization just because I've seen how they treat him now. And, like, Jerry, he has, for whatever reason, such a bad rep, but he's amazing. That whole family is so great, and they really look after their old players. So I really, like, love the cowboys too. And I feel like it's not a conflict of interest because they only play, like, once every four years. Speaker 3
Which just happens. Speaker 0
They're gonna play, you know, Speaker 3
this weekend. Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
This weekend. Speaker 0
Okay. So tell me a little bit about you. I mean, you said that you weren't really necessarily interested in dating an NFL player. You kinda wanted to steer clear of that. He sucked you in and here you are. How many ever years later? How what was it about him that kind of changed your mindset about that, and how have you maintained your identity, within this relationship? Speaker 2
Oh, good question. Well, he's different. I think anybody that knows him not that there's anything wrong with being a professional football player. I mean, these guys are amazing and they're so smart and they work so hard to be where they are. So, like, it's incredible and I'm honored to know so many people that have played, because they're incredible people. It takes a lot. But he is so different. He just is such a kind human. And as I got to know him, he just like the his kindness and just the love that he has for people and he truly genuinely cares about everybody. Like that's what really got me. So he will know everybody's name from the ballet guy, from the busser, from it doesn't matter who it is. He walked through the Cowboys organization and knows the janitor. Like, he knows that guy's name and he's like, hey, guy. What's up? How how's your kids? How's your daughter? You know, like, he remembers everybody. He just has, like, this amazing kind heart. So that's really what stood out to me for him and that's what I really fell in love with. He just loves people so well. Speaker 0
So that's why you flush the lyrics to that song. You could just so you could have room to remember everyone's name. Speaker 3
Right? That's right. It's only someone's room. That's right. That's right. Speaker 0
And how do you how, you know, how was that kind of navigating to not just be DeMarcus's wife? It was a challenge at Speaker 2
the very beginning, because I had only known to work in, you know, being on my own and supporting myself and all that stuff. And, you know, I took a lot of pride in that. And, so it was a little bit of a challenge when I moved to Dallas and I left my job and all that stuff. But, you know, God is so good because he just he gives you identity when you don't have have identity. Like, as you continue to learn about God and what God's calling is for your life, you just start to have pieces filling together. So, really I've just learned to press into Jesus and and that's really helped. And, now I get to do my own thing and help other people and speak life into other people, and it's just so beautiful. So yeah. Speaker 3
Tell us more about that, about being a speaker, entrepreneur, obviously, a mom. We can talk about that next. But but tell us about your speaking engagements and and what it is that kinda drives you. Speaker 2
Well, I speak mostly at our church, which is amazing, and I just love God's heart for people, and it's amazing to be able to share that. It's just such a blessing. So I I spend a lot of time with our church and helping our church out. That's a lot of my extracurricular activity situations, and it's a lot of fun. But, yeah, I mean, I I think it's just what drives me is just being able to see God's love shine into other people. Mhmm. Like, we all are looking for love and we're all looking to be loved and find our purpose in life and and to be able to share that with other people and is there's nothing that could fill your heart more, really. Speaker 0
So, DeMarcus, you mentioned your older children, and then you have MJ Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 0
Who's almost four. How different are the experiences with with those Speaker 1
with with the Wow. Speaker 6
You know, when you're the middle one again, when you got some Speaker 1
space in between. Speaker 0
When you got some space in between. Speaker 1
Yeah. When you I mean, with my little daughter daughter I mean, older daughter now, morally, she's, like, quiet as a mouse. And so it's like, hey. You know? I mean, you know, girl don't have their emotions. She's seventeen years old, but she's really quiet. And then you got my son where he's quiet, but I can see, like, that that edge is in there, and he's trying to grow that edge, but he don't know what to do with it. So he's he's coming into that fifteen, almost fourteen now, almost about to be fifteen year old on November the twentieth on November twentieth. And so he's trying to, like, itch everything and bottle it up. But then you got a little man right here. He's the loudest Uh-huh. And the most energetic. Yeah. I'm a give you all of it. And from seven thirty in the morning to six o'clock, get your mind right. Yeah. Because he is just going like a like a, you know, five car driver. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
But so it it's so different now to to have, you know, the older kids. Now also you got the young one, and so you're like, okay. What do I do? Like, you just gotta sorta, like, put them all in the basket and be like, hey. Here everybody gotta take care of each other. Speaker 4
This is Speaker 1
what we gotta do and just roll with it. Speaker 0
So I remember there was a video of you that went viral of you. This was you like, singing a song. Yeah. What song was that? Do you remember this? I'm asking you to remember too many songs. Speaker 3
From it? Playing days or Speaker 0
No. Like, you were sing you were singing, like, the sweet little nursery rhyme or something. It was I don't know what it Speaker 1
was on. Was it Speaker 0
a while back? Or Oh, Speaker 1
it was a long time ago. Oh, no. That was my my, my daughter saw it. Speaker 0
It was, It was like, god. It's gonna drive me crazy. Does anybody remember this? There it was Ah. You are single. Soul that Speaker 3
was We came out here Speaker 0
in a number of years. Here's DeMarcus Ware, like, one of the baddest dudes in the NFL, and he's like, I love Speaker 3
you. You Speaker 0
love me. Speaker 2
I didn't Speaker 0
know that one. Speaker 1
Very And we and we sang it. I used to sing it to her all the time. Yes. Speaker 0
And we're Speaker 1
like, what are you singing to her? Yeah. So they were trying to capture a moment of her doing something, and I started singing to her. And when you got your daughter, like, look at you like this right here. It's like, dad, I love you so much. And I was just like tearing up Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 1
When I was singing or something. Speaker 3
You'll do anything. Speaker 0
I think it might have been Speaker 1
Yeah. I think that was it. Speaker 0
But it was Speaker 1
That was it. I remember. I think that was it. Speaker 3
It was hilarious. Angela, how has it been for you navigating motherhood? It's I mean, it's Speaker 4
a game changer. It's a Speaker 3
game changer. It changer. Speaker 2
It's a game changer. It's a game changer. It, it's so fun, but it definitely was not what I expected, you know, going in and like, I wanna have a kid and I wanna be a mom and and, man, he's just such a blessing but it's a whirlwind, you know. So he it's just such a gift but, man, life really changes. Yeah. It really changes and you're like, woah, I thought Speaker 4
I had Speaker 2
it all figured out up here somehow but I do not know anything. Speaker 1
You find out really fast what twenty four seven is. Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
I mean, for you when you have your first child, you're like, okay. No. No. This is gonna be twenty four seven. So just what you want. Right? This is what we want. Speaker 4
Yeah. Right? Speaker 1
Because we had the seventeen Yep. Fourteen year old. Yeah. And it's like, do we want to have one more baby? She's like, yeah. I said, this is gonna be twenty four seven. I mean, it's like, woah. You can't stop. Speaker 3
No. No. It's so from Speaker 4
They don't Speaker 0
go away. They don't have these children. Not for a while. Not for a while. Speaker 1
Not again. Speaker 3
How do y'all how do y'all make sure to keep the energy up and kinda keep in the right state of mind? Because with parenting, it's hard. Right? Yeah. And you can feel blah one day. You can feel bad. You can be something could have upset you, but you you don't want that to reflect when you're speaking to your kid, when you're parenting, when you're with your family. Speaker 1
Mhmm. Speaker 3
How do y'all kinda kinda navigate that? Because for me, I think it's one of the hardest parts of parenting. Speaker 1
I I look at it like this. One of the worst things with kids is having a unhealed mom or dad. They they, they they absorb that. Speaker 6
Mhmm. Speaker 4
And Speaker 1
so every time that I I feel bad, every single time that, I feel like I can't do it or I'm feeling some type of way, I always go back to that point. How do I show them a healed inner dad? Yeah. A healed inner husband, a healed inner friend to them so they can then see that it's almost like, you know, with my daughter, I'm the first person that she's gonna date or see as a man, right, and show love to her. The same thing with my son. How you should treat a woman, how you should be a good friend, and the same thing with him. So I go back just into what characteristics that you wanna portray to him no matter what you feel like. Speaker 0
Wow. Speaker 1
Can you actually be a sacrifice to yourself to make sure that your family's gonna be really good? Speaker 0
Yeah. That's a great how did you put that into being a healed Uh-uh. Showing them? Unhealed parents. Yeah. Speaker 1
Yep. When if you have parents that are unhealed, that's that's who they're gonna see the most of them. And so those kids are gonna grow up and sorta harbor some of your problems. Speaker 0
Yeah. Because you can't hide that. Speaker 1
Because you can't hide it. Speaker 0
You can't hide it. Speaker 4
I don't Speaker 1
care what you say. You can't hide it. So it has to be real. Speaker 0
Yeah. It Speaker 1
has to be real. Speaker 3
What a great answer. Speaker 0
Yeah. That one. Yeah. Speaker 4
That was Yeah. Speaker 3
How about you, Angela? How I mean, I guess the easier question maybe how do you keep up the energy? Oh. Well, you're into fitness and stuff and that's important. Speaker 2
Yes. Thank goodness. I think with him, I think with all kids, it's a perspective shift and you kind of got to look at it like game day every day. And the challenges that you come come at you, it's like, okay, being a mom or being a parent teaches you so much. It can teach you patience. It can take teach you self control. It can teach you, oh, gentleness and, you know, it teaches you so much being a parent. And, if you look at it like, okay, this I'm he's taking me to school as much as I'm taking him to school. Like, what am I gonna get to practice on growing in today and think of it as a game day? It really, like, that perspective shift really helped me because the challenges then become fun challenges versus the challenges become, like, I can't. This is too hard. I just need a break, you know, because we all hit those places where we're like, I just need a time out. Yeah. Right. I need a time out. Speaker 5
For a Speaker 2
period of time out. Yeah. Speaker 0
Well, and I think too, it's, for me, it was so great when I became a parent. Like, I was so focused on my career and myself for so long. And even when I got married, like, I was, like, you knew what you signed up for. You asked me to marry you after much pressure put on by me, but you ultimately asked, and I said yes. But then when you have kids, it's like, you don't none of that stuff matters. Like, I don't like, I I, you're so focused on wanting them to like, I'm like, I just don't wanna raise assholes. Like, I'm just I just wanna raise good human beings. I want them to be good. I want them to be good human beings. I don't care what they accomplish. I I don't tell them this, but I don't care if they are the you know, make good grades all the time. Like, I just wanted to be good human beings. Yeah. And having refreshing perspective shift, like, you talked about that where I didn't care anymore about, you know, climbing the next notch on the ladder of the, you know, business world or in my career or whatever. I just that that stuff didn't matter to me anymore, and it was kinda cool. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I, you know, when I retired, I started looking and and and a lot of the guys too that struggle when they get out of the league, They struggle because they don't know purpose. They don't have a purpose. They been pouring into the team. Yep. They wanna win a championship. I've been practicing this whole time from six AM to six PM. I get two hours with the family. So they don't know what family really means. They you you they can portray it all they want to. They don't know. And so now when you retire, like, the perspective that I had when I retired is my new team is my family. I was a captain for twelve years. How do I lead my wife? She's a quarterback. How do I lead my sons? How do I lead, like, my daughter? And started looking at it looking at it as that perspective knowing that during the season, you're not gonna win every game. There's not a lot of sixteen and o or eighteen and o teams. You're gonna have a up and down season, but what is the main goal? Your main goal in a football season is to hoist their trophy up and say I wanna be a champion. So what is that goal for your family that you can sort of say it's over there? But how do we, like, take little steps to get there and build a team to be, to have, like, a the winning atmosphere in the family? Speaker 3
Yeah. I love that. Yeah. It it's such a great way to look at it. Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
And speaking of the winning atmosphere and the teams and and I wanna talk about your son in playing football. Right? Speaker 1
Yeah. He is. Speaker 4
He is. Speaker 3
What is that like for you now to be a football dad? He's freshman playing on the varsity for Southlake. Is that all accurate? Speaker 1
Okay. Freshman. He just actually I mean, what? Two weeks ago, he tore his ACL. Speaker 3
Oh, no. Speaker 1
So that was very, very hard. But, you know, challenges like that are gonna come in the sport. I'm glad it came early, and now he's on on the mend. But for me to be now on the other side and be in the stands, like, at first, I I didn't know exactly, like, how would that feel. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
I'm just sitting there. Am I gonna be the biggest cheerleader for him? Because I see, like, all the families yelling. Or am I gonna be quiet? Am I gonna be hard on him? And he's like, yeah. This is what you need to do. I see those dads too. Speaker 3
They're moms too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's plenty Speaker 0
of moms. Speaker 1
And so I sit back and just chill. And I'm like, you know what? He needs a cheerleader from his dad. But then, like, one day, he came to me and he was like, you know, I want for you to teach me some football stuff. I said, okay. If you want me to teach you some football stuff, here's the the analogy I want for you to to keep with me because I wanna keep it one hundred. Speaker 4
That's what Speaker 1
I'm talking about. Hundred with you. Speaker 3
Tay Tay. Yeah. Speaker 1
You want coach or you want dad? You're not gonna like coach. I said because coach is gonna ride you. I'm gonna make sure you're doing the right technique. I'm gonna be on you. You're probably gonna do a lot of things right. But dad is gonna be your biggest cheerleader. Speaker 3
Oh, wow. Speaker 1
I'm gonna root for you. You're gonna always do everything right no matter what the situation is. And now we have a situation with me and him to where you want dad or you want coach? Speaker 0
So it's on a case by case basis? Speaker 1
It's a case by Speaker 2
case basis. Speaker 1
So he'll tell me. Hey. Who who you want? You want dad or coach? Speaker 3
Wow. I like that. Speaker 1
So if you want coach I'm saying not coach, but you want dad? Alright. I'm gonna say, hey. Here's here's how we're gonna get better. Here's some things you need to do. If you ask for coach, I'm a ride you. Speaker 6
Yeah. Speaker 1
I'm a be on you. I'm a go after you. But it's but it's But Speaker 0
you make it up to him. That's a huge I'm Speaker 1
keeping it up to him. You can make that decision. Yeah. But you know that both of them are in there. Speaker 0
Right. Speaker 1
But during the game, as coach Wade used to say, like, the problems are mine when you're playing. I'm a root for you one hundred percent. If you get ran over, if you go have an interception, like, all of that's positive. And then after the game, who do you want? You want coach or you want dad? Speaker 6
Yeah. Okay. Speaker 3
So to take it one step further, when he says he wants coach, how does that go? Does he receive the feedback well? Speaker 1
When he asked me, you know, you know, I I won't coach right now. I'm like, alright. I always set the atmosphere with him. I sit him down and I'll because if I watch the game, I was I know everything. Speaker 0
Like, I Speaker 1
will I will go through every I will nitpick every single thing, and every single thing is actually right, but I'm gonna nitpick the smallest things to make it wrong, to say that there's another level to it. You can never be too good in what you're doing. You can never be too complacent. Make sure you have humility in these situation. I saw when you was out there doing some type of dance. What what was that about? Speaker 6
Uh-huh. So Speaker 1
I'm a go all in all into that with him and, you know, not and then it it gets a good perspective change, you know, with him too when I when I do that, but I make sure it's I know his heart. Speaker 0
Yeah. So I know where Speaker 1
I know where to poke. Yeah. And I know where you know what? I I need you need a little loving right here Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
To just make sure Speaker 6
I love Speaker 4
that you Speaker 0
leave it up to him. I think that's that's Yeah. That's smart. Yeah. Because I think a lot of most parents don't do that. Right. Speaker 1
They're Speaker 0
just like, we're just Speaker 4
gonna Right. Speaker 0
Tell you how it is. Say t I is. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. For sure. Okay. I wanna ask you about your thoughts on the Cowboys. Like, what Speaker 3
do you think about we we must ask. We must check that box. Speaker 0
This defense. Whew. Speaker 3
Yeah. It's been rough Speaker 0
to watch. Speaker 1
Yeah. So my my perspective on the defense is if you start watching, like, some of the games, they'll have, like, a phenomenal eight play drive, and then all of a sudden you're like, woah. Like, how did they this dude is open. He's eighty yards down the field by himself. Yeah. And they have the talent. That's one thing that they're not lacking. A lot of people are like, well, they don't have the big name guys. They have the talent. I've seen them practice before. I know a lot of the coaches and everything, but there is no leadership. There is no leadership on the team where what I what I mean by this accountability. Everybody is not accountable accountable to themselves individually. But also just as a team, you can see, like, sometimes, like, the little things that a lot of, you know, fans they don't see is the the plays that they break down, you'll see them, like, looking. Speaker 3
Uh-huh. Speaker 1
Like, this like, they don't know what's going on. So now that big play happened, the the team will just quick snap it. And I think that they're not being accountable to themselves with just knowing, like, the play calling, studying a little bit more. You know? I just call it like it is. And so they're they they have to study more as a team. The continuity of the team isn't as close as you probably think. Because if you're close, those things won't happen because the football happens after the time football needs to be clocked in, which is like that six to four. Yeah. If it's a close team, five, six, seven o'clock, eight o'clock at night, we're still hanging out. We're still watching film. We're still doing all those things. It doesn't stop. And I think it's stopping at the time it needs to stop and everybody's not really Speaker 3
You're not gelling? Why? Speaker 0
Why are you playing? Speaker 1
Why are you playing for that next man? Do you know about his wife? Do you know about his family? Are you really that close of knowing why I play for that guy? Speaker 0
Right. Speaker 1
Not for the Dallas Cowboys, but for that man beside me. Speaker 3
Yeah. Such an underrated, like, aspect of sports. Right? Yeah. Like, you're playing for each other. And if you don't have that camaraderie Speaker 1
Yeah. Speaker 3
And you don't know and love the people you're playing with, I it shows up on the field. Right? Speaker 0
In this day and age where there's so many numbers, there's you can't put a value on that. No. Speaker 4
And peep Speaker 0
and the the stat nerds can't put a value on it, so they wanna completely disregard it and poo poo it and talk about there's that's it it it doesn't matter because I punched all these numbers in my computer and this is what spit out. Speaker 1
The the numbers don't matter and I always looked at, you know, the there's x's and o's. Right? There's certain players, but you gotta make those players come to life. They have family. They have characteristics that you can't put to on that number. And so that's what keeps the team close together is when you have usually, the leader on a team, they're really quiet because they've talked the whole time during practice. They've talked the whole time during meetings. They're not the ones that are, hey. This is I mean, doing a lot of the media stuff. They're not. But when the when he walks into the room, there's a person that you respect. And when they walk into the room, it's like, woah. Everybody gets quiet. Like, what do we have to do for that person? And he knows every single person. He knows every single play how they should do it, and that's what's missing. Speaker 3
From the defense? Speaker 1
From from the defense. Speaker 6
Yeah. Speaker 1
From the defense. Speaker 4
I mean, Speaker 1
if you're scoring thirty five, forty points on offense, I mean, what else could you ask? Speaker 4
Right. Speaker 3
Yeah. And, like, Dak can rein those guys in, but you're defensively, that's just kind of a Speaker 1
You need that. When Micah left, you know, he was a great player, but still not the leader that we needed. Speaker 3
Yeah. Speaker 1
He was a phenomenal player, but now he's in a I feel like he's in a better spot where he's at now because he probably has someone that he's looking up to that's there Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 1
That's teaching him even more and making him a better player. He's playing really well right now. Yeah. So something's gelling up there like it like like it should be that wasn't here. Speaker 3
Yeah. Cowboys or Broncos this weekend? Speaker 1
Cowboys. Woah. Woah. Woah. Woah. Uh-oh. Speaker 4
Woah. Woah. You Speaker 3
can say no comment. Speaker 1
You can say I'll I'll comment on it. It's I mean, because I just, left there. It was super the ten year of Super Bowl fifty is our anniversary, so I was there. And then, you know, also with Demaryius Thomas celebrating him and the the ring of, fame there. They are a very, very strappy team. It was different. I'm just this this is where I go to the continuity of the team. When you have a team that I asked them a question and I asked the defensive line, like, how you guys gonna get pressure this week? They said, bro, we got a game plan. All of us got a game plan on how we gonna get pressure. They didn't say, like, how I how we gonna get pressure. And they said, this is what we say out there. All of us gonna eat today. And I'm like, And so that point of how close they were and all of them when I said something to one of them, all of them came around and they corralled around. And I'm like, wow. This is and they're young. Yeah. Just like the Dallas Cowboys, they're young. So you gotta get those young strappy guys. I mean, I don't know exactly, you know, how the game is gonna go, but I know that it's very, very hard to go up there and play in Denver Yeah. Because of the altitude. And and, you know, just Speaker 6
It's real. Yeah. Speaker 1
It's a great home field advantage, and they they got a really good team too. So the cowboys can go up there and win, but they gotta knock them in their mouth fast and early Yeah. Quick and get up on them. So now they can just start their pass rush game. They could probably get to the quarterback. Speaker 3
Yeah. So I have some, like, quick rapid fire, and this will be the last thing we do. But there kinda some silly questions just to have some fun Alright. Kind of about your your relationship, your marriage Mhmm. Parenting, all the things. You can say no comment. Right? We're not forcing you into this. Okay. But they're pretty easy, pretty harmless. Pickleball. Yes or no? Speaker 2
No. Yes. Pickleball. Well, if it's nothing or pickleball, pickleball. I mean, if it's tennis versus pickleball, tennis. Sorry. Speaker 3
Good. Thanks. Yeah. Same. Pedicures. Yes or no? Speaker 1
I like pedicures. I love nails. Okay. I love nails. People that take care of their their feet and their hands, to me, that shows hygiene. I'm being honest with you. So I love I love nails and, you know, my wife knows that too. So yeah. Speaker 3
So Angela passed the test? Speaker 1
She passed Speaker 3
the test. Oh, yeah. Speaker 2
Oh, yeah. I mean, that first year and a half was rough when MJ came though. So what? I did not. I failed miserably on the test then. Yeah. Right. Nope. You are taking too long. I've got twenty minutes. Can you get it done? No? Okay. Catch me later. Speaker 3
Sitting on the same side of the booth at dinner. Yes or no? Speaker 2
Always. Always. Aw. Required. Speaker 3
Y'all are so cute. Yeah. Speaker 0
I don't I don't Speaker 1
like to sit across like this. No. It's weird. No. Speaker 3
Just a day. Sleep mask. Do it. Speaker 2
No. Uh-uh. Say it again? Speaker 3
Sleep masks. Speaker 6
Sleep masks. He don't have no one in here. Speaker 2
He's like, what's that? Speaker 0
I probably got Speaker 1
a lot of free ones that they don't sent me and no gave them to her. Sky, but no sleep mask for me. Speaker 0
He's, like, handed everything. He's got Speaker 3
a bunch of sleep masks. Speaker 1
No. You know, I got the I actually I there was a what is it? Theragun? Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
There's a one I got the one at the house right now. I just pulled it out, but she didn't wear it, but Speaker 2
Has never used it. Speaker 1
It's never used it. I'll never use it sleeping. Speaker 3
And you also like, do y'all just sleep fine on your own naturally? Emily and I talk about this. Like, as you get older No. Speaker 4
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Speaker 1
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No you know, soaking in his presence, music on the whole night. I'm out. Speaker 2
Yeah. We have a toddler. There is no sleep fine all through the night. Just for clarification. Speaker 3
This is true. You can just knock knock out. Yes. Okay. Playing sports together. Yes or no? Yes. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. We are very competitive. Speaker 5
What do Speaker 3
y'all play? Speaker 2
Tennis? Tennis. Tennis and golf. Speaker 1
Then golf. Okay. So we we will go out and play, like and we're competing too. I I get pissed. Speaker 2
I give him a run for Speaker 1
his money. Yeah. Speaker 2
Nice. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Speaker 3
Do y'all ever argue or is it like do y'all ever argue during the while you're playing? Speaker 1
It just you just gotta know which button not to press. Right. It's like you just know that, like, if I hit a ball in the like, a trash ball over here, like, don't be like, oh, I see you hit it over there. I'm already pissed. Yeah. Don't say anything like that piss me off anymore. Like, hey, babe. You know what? Maybe you should kick it or or give me a just throw a ball out there and say, hey. Just try another one. Maybe you can do better next time. Yeah. Like, give me some motivation. Speaker 0
Okay. Speaker 1
Because I'm already a omori over the top. I love some golf now. Speaker 2
Yeah. I wanna beat him at his best, not at his worst. Right. Speaker 4
I don't know. Speaker 1
It's not fair with it Speaker 2
that his worst. I wanna beat him at his best. I like Speaker 3
it. So true. I feel like that's so relatable. I was playing pickleball with my husband the other day, and he kept hitting it up too high. Right? And they're just slamming it. I'm like, keep it look. Oh, no, Julie. Speaker 1
Yes. Yes. Speaker 3
He got so mad at me. I was like, well, I didn't know if you knew. Sorry. You don't pop it up to them. Okay. Who's the better cook? Speaker 1
Oh, Angela for sure. Oh, and she's the cook What are Speaker 3
your specialties? Speaker 1
Everything is special. Speaker 3
Look at this. Speaker 2
He likes it too fast. Speaker 3
You see that? Uh-huh. Speaker 0
What's your favorite thing to cook? Speaker 2
I love to cook a good steak. I mean, that doesn't sound like fancy or anything, but there's nothing like a really good What Speaker 3
are you Speaker 2
cooking on? I cook it I cook it in cast iron. Okay. And then I finish put, like, a nice sear on the outside. Oh, yeah. Finish it in the oven. Speaker 0
Does it on the green egg. Oh, yep. Phenomenal. Speaker 1
It's really good. Speaker 0
Yep. Really good. It's so good. I'm in. Speaker 3
Yeah. Okay. Who does bedtimes? Me? Mostly? Speaker 1
Yeah. She does bedtime mostly. Yeah. Tuesdays and Thursdays, it just depends. I'll do bedtime. But majority of the time, she's doing bedtime. Speaker 3
It's it's a fun thing. Speaker 1
He actually really he really acts up when I do bedtime. Speaker 2
I love it now that he's more cooperative. Speaker 1
Hour and thirty minutes late Right. Going to bed. Speaker 3
Yeah. For sure. Who's more likely to forget it's picture day at school? Speaker 1
Oh, I I Both Speaker 2
of us? Yeah. Speaker 1
He just answered there like two days ago, didn't it? Speaker 2
Yeah. I think it was Speaker 1
See? Speaker 2
A week? Yeah. No. Speaker 4
Because we Speaker 2
got the pictures back already. Speaker 1
It was last week. Speaker 2
But I definitely yeah. We definitely scrambled. I'm horrible and so was he. Like, I don't know. Yeah. It's really rough. Speaker 3
As they get older, there's so much more. It's like wear red. Speaker 0
All the things. Yeah. Speaker 2
Oh, I'm having Speaker 3
a hat on Wednesday. His Speaker 2
older, and they had, like, dress up every week, and I was like, what is this? This is we're not doing it. This is this is crazy. Dress up like a cowboy, then dress up like, you know, a car. What is what like a circus, and then I'm like, what is this? Speaker 3
Yeah. Why? Okay. I feel like y'all might not even have one of these because y'all seem pretty perfect. But what's the household penalty flag moment? Like, something that drives you nuts in the house? Outside of feet and nails and Speaker 1
I don't know. Speaker 2
Shoes on in the house drives me. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 4
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay. Speaker 0
So your shoes off. Speaker 1
Yeah. I'm a shoes off. Speaker 4
I'm a Speaker 2
thumbs off gal. Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay. Speaker 4
I'm a Speaker 2
shoes off gal. It makes sense. Yeah. I mean, Speaker 0
it does. I'm surprised I'm not because I'm super OCD. Yes. I just You said I don't know. Speaker 2
And he does not care. Speaker 0
He's like he's like it's fine. Yeah. Speaker 3
You were good. Speaker 1
Shoes shoes, I'll take my shoes off every once in a while. Speaker 2
Sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3
We found it. We found it. Good. Favorite show to binge watch? Speaker 2
Oh. Yes. What is it called? The the David the Speaker 1
The House of David? Speaker 2
House of David. Oh my gosh. It's so good. It's about, date like David and Goliath David in the Bible. Okay. Speaker 1
Yeah. It's really good. Speaker 2
They remade it. It's on Prime. Yeah. Speaker 0
Yeah. Yeah. So good. Speaker 1
It's really good. Speaker 2
Think of, like, biblical Game of Thrones. Speaker 3
Woah. Okay. Speaker 2
So it's really good. Not as, like, x rated. But I feel like Not as you were Speaker 1
for good. Speaker 3
Parenting motto in one word. Speaker 1
Parenting motto in what now? Speaker 3
One word. One word. Parenting motto. Speaker 2
Love. Speaker 0
That's a hard one, girls. Speaker 3
I'm trying to get married. Answer. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Love is a yes. Good one. Speaker 4
I think Speaker 3
copy her. Speaker 1
Yeah. I think no. I think forgiveness. Speaker 2
That's a good one. That's a good one. Speaker 1
I think I think being able to say I'm sorry. Yeah. That's that's a Speaker 3
tough screwing up. Speaker 1
Oh my god. Because everybody's screwing up. First. Speaker 5
Yep. Speaker 1
You didn't you messed up. Okay. Cool. Can you apologize for that? Because, I mean, it was hard for my son to to apologize. And he said, like, for what? And I would get him to explain to me, like, why what what was the problem. But then he starts to understand, like, oh, you know what? You're right. Because if you never think that you're wrong, you eventually, you're gonna get to a point to where you get so complacent and so conceded of thinking that you're always right all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 0
There's something very empowering about saying Speaker 2
I'm sorry. Speaker 1
For sure. For sure. Speaker 6
And being Speaker 2
able to accept forgiveness and grace too is something that we don't learn as kids sometimes Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 2
You know, is to, like, receive forgiveness. Right. Keep ourself in shame so much, you know, like, I messed up and I'm not good enough and I can't get it right and blah blah blah. That narrative like, if we can break that narrative early as parents and just accepting grace and forgiveness, how much more empowered are you as an adult if you learn that early? Speaker 1
Sure. Yeah. Speaker 3
Y'all are amazing. That's all I'm like, y'all are awesome. This is so great. Let's see. Just we'll do Speaker 1
one more. Speaker 3
Alright. Who's Speaker 2
more competitive? Probably me. Speaker 4
She doesn't Speaker 1
I I I can't I she she is more competitive because she can show it. I can't show my competitiveness. Like, it's one of those things, like, for me, if I got competitive, it's almost like a detriment to me. Like, I'm like one of those people that, like, I can will myself to win. Speaker 2
That is true. Speaker 1
Like, if I wanna win, I am gonna win. Wow. And and I can't I can't have that mentality. Yeah. Speaker 2
That that is that is that is accurate. Speaker 1
Yeah. So I'm like Speaker 2
I've seen some unbelievable things happen for you. Speaker 1
Need, like, if I want something or if I wanna win, like, I will do whatever it takes to win even to the point where, like, when I played the sport, I would play with a broken arm. I would play with a hurt leg, and I would subdue the pain because I want to beat you. The and I can't I can't be that guy anymore. Yeah. I'm like, no. Speaker 0
So I'm like, no. I get to be the competitive one then. Speaker 3
You're just like, no. Speaker 1
I'm not doing that. Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1
Go ahead. Speaker 3
Yeah. You know Speaker 1
I'm not having a stress day today. Speaker 4
I'm not Speaker 1
getting to do that. Speaker 3
You don't wanna bring that out in couples golf. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Right? Yep. Well, y'all are so amazing. This has been so wonderful. Speaker 0
Thank y'all so much. Speaker 1
Yeah. Loving you. Thank you guys for having Speaker 0
us on. Thank y'all for being Speaker 1
here. We appreciate it. Cause too with, you know, doing this and everything. Speaker 0
Thank y'all so much. Yeah. Alright. Well, best of luck. Go Cowboys. Speaker 1
Yes. Go Speaker 0
Cowboys. Rooting for them. Speaker 3
And go Broncos. Speaker 2
Yes. Exactly. Speaker 3
Whoever you want to win. Whoever you want to win. Go sports. Speaker 2
Go sports teams. Speaker 0
Yay football. Go football. Well, thank y'all so much. Best of luck with the birthday party this weekend, MJ. Speaker 1
That's right, buddy. Speaker 4
Have Speaker 0
fun. Happy fourth birthday. Speaker 1
Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Speaker 3
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And that was so fun to have. DeMarcus and Angela Ware on our show. Oh my gosh. They're so amazing. I I learned so much, so many things I wanna take home when it comes to to parenting. And I'm excited to have another sweet couple joining us today. Welcome to Charlie and Amanda Lauersdorf. Did I yell it? Speaker 0
You did. You got it. No. Absolutely. No. Speaker 5
Great job. Great job. Speaker 3
I'm a game day kind of person. Like, in the moment. Yes. Leading up to it, I couldn't get it right. Okay. So you're the Fort Worth city councilman. Speaker 5
Correct. Speaker 3
That sounds very important. Speaker 5
I I I don't know about all that. It's it's an honor to serve the the city of Fort Worth, but no. She's the important one here, not this guy. Speaker 0
Yeah. So Fort Worth is big. So what district are is it districts? Is that Speaker 4
It is. Speaker 0
It's part of our district. Political idiocy here. Speaker 5
No. No. No. Trust me. You're you're I was there with you a couple years ago. So district four is each district represents about a hundred thousand people. Speaker 1
K. Speaker 5
We are now unofficially the tenth largest city in America. We have over a million residents. So Yeah. Round of applause. Growing. We're we're Speaker 0
I'm one of them. Speaker 5
We're growing responsibly. Speaker 0
Proud Fort Worth residents. Speaker 5
So, come to Texas. If you wanna come to Texas, just don't Austin or Fort Worth. That's that's kind of our slogan. So Don't Speaker 3
Austin it. Don't make it too Yeah. Speaker 5
Don't make it too weird. Big. Don't make it too weird. Weird. Get like, if if you if you get in front of somebody, wave. It's a big deal still, you Speaker 0
know. Right. Speaker 5
Doesn't matter how big you get. You can still stay respectful and stay small town. So that's our goal. Speaker 3
You're not ready for Fort Worth City Limits Music Fest? Or Speaker 5
no. Absolutely not Speaker 4
at all. Speaker 0
I I don't even wanna talk about that. Speaker 3
I'm from Austin. Yeah. Speaker 5
Do I get I I know exactly what you're talking about. I want no part of it. Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, I know Amanda has a wonderful story. We wanna get to that and and talk a little bit about why y'all are here today. But can you explain what a a city councilman does and kinda what pulls you to do to do this job? Speaker 5
Yeah. So it's it's it's funny because whenever we first talked about this, we were actually in a hot tub, I think, in in December. And I was like, hey. So there's gonna be an open seat on city council. And rather than hoping someone else steps up to serve and has the same ideas and vision for Fort Worth, I think I should do it. And we're like, sounds like a terrible idea. So I did it. But your your your council is actually, in my opinion, unbiased opinion, almost more important than your federal government because we affect more of your daily life. Like, the roads, your infrastructure, stormwater, things that aren't sexy, like potholes and picking up your trash. Those are things that we should be worried about at the city council level. Property taxes, all those fun but not Speaker 3
fun things. Else wants to worry about. Speaker 5
Right. Like, you need somebody that has common sense, and I'm also a marine, and we'll talk about that in just a minute too. But you need somebody with just common sense approach to, like, being a normal family. What affects you? How does it affect you the most? And what can we do to ensure the Fort Worth we leave behind is better than how we received it? Because we want our kids we have a lot of kids. We want them to grow up here and stay here and grow their families here. We don't want them to go somewhere else because of policies or something dumb. Speaker 0
Yeah. How many kids y'all have? Speaker 5
Oh, shoot. That we know of at least five. Speaker 0
Okay. Speaker 5
Right? Did I did I get that right? Speaker 0
Okay. Yeah. You probably have a pretty good recollection of all the children. Decently. Speaker 3
Yes. Decently. You know all their names and Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 6
We have a combined household. So Speaker 0
Okay. Yeah. Speaker 3
Okay. So never a dull moment. Right? With with all of those what are the eight what's the age range? Speaker 5
That's on her. She's got a Speaker 6
So we go fourteen to twenty three. Okay. That's the age rate age range, but our house has been pretty calm Yeah. Recently. Speaker 4
All knocked Speaker 0
for me. Speaker 6
I mean, I think it's because I just had surgery about six weeks ago when my daughter, the twenty three year old so I've got the twenty three and the fourteen. So I've got the the two on the end, the outliers. And, but so my daughter's been having him, and then we have the fifteen year old every other week and the seventeen year old full time, but then the nineteen year old is at college. Speaker 3
Okay. Speaker 6
Got it. So we A little bit of everything. Fluctuates. Speaker 3
Yeah. For sure. So so I spoke to you before we started the show. I'm a breast cancer survivor, and I understand you're going through a journey of your own right now. And when you talk about the kids and you talk about life, like, I remember that feeling of life just stopping. Like, things nothing else is important besides you, your family, getting healthy. Tell us a little bit about your story and and where you're at now. Of course, we're here in support of Susan g Komen who's doing so many wonderful things, giving back for people like us. Speaker 0
That's that's Yeah. Speaker 6
That's so amazing. So I so it back in December, we had it was time for my yearly my yearly mammogram. We had been watching a few lumps since, like, two thousand seventeen. So when in December they were like, Oh, one of these, one of these lumps looks congruent with a duct. So they did a biopsy on it. It came back as a papilloma, which has like a ten percent chance of becoming cancerous ever. So I met with the doctor. She was like, it needs to come out. But I was getting ready to deploy in February. And so Speaker 5
I think you have to get Speaker 4
some more Speaker 5
information on that. Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. Deploy. Speaker 6
Oh, right. So all of this is pre deployment workup. So December, I met with the doctor. December, I met with the doctor, and she was like, okay. Well, we can take we'll take care of this when we get when I get back. Because I was gonna go deploy, and then come home in, like, mid December or so, and then we'll remove the papilloma, and then I'll go on with my life. So she decided before she was ready to give me the clear, even though the biopsy came back okay and the other scans were fine because I had an ultrasound and a diagnostic mammogram, and the self exams were fine, she was like, I just wanna double check. So we did another mammogram, an ultrasound, and it showed up on the MRI. Wow. So they did the biopsy, and so my orders I was supposed to leave. My order said February sixth. So rather than allow me to go down to Fort Hood and then just come back up for my biopsy, they extended my orders to March. They're like, okay. This will give you time. Get that second biopsy. I spoke with the radiologist and she was like, I'm sure it's fine. We just gotta double check. Well, that came back positive for cancer. And so it's so initially, it was like, okay. Well, you have a choice, lumpectomy or mastectomy. What do you wanna do? We got the oncotype results back and that showed that I would need chemo premenopausal, you know, with my age and every the type of cancer and everything. So we had a double mastectomy date set for, April twenty second. And so we found out about four days prior to that that it was in my lymph nodes. And so they were like, we're canceling surgery and you're going to chemo. So we, you know, we did chemo and it was eight rounds of chemo. And we were hoping that by, you know, so I had a double mastectomy with reconstruction, six weeks ago. Wow. And I we were hoping that that would be the clear, like, oh, we're good. You're cancer free. Well, I'm not. So they they pulled out some lymph nodes and checked them. The original one that had cancer in it was clear, but another one did. So now, the next plan is to do, a full lymph node dissection. So they'll basically remove all of my lymph nodes from my armpit. And then depending on which way we go with surgery, there's reconstruction options for your lymphatic system and stuff like that, lymph node transfers, All kinds of amazing things that we had no idea about until, like, three weeks ago. Then radiation. Okay. So, but I think one of the most annoying things about this is like, I didn't even mind losing my hair. You know, that wasn't a big deal. So they put because my because the cancer is estrogen and progesterone driven. So I started Lupron last week. Speaker 3
Yep. I did that. Yeah. Speaker 6
So now I Okay. What's Lupron? So it's a so basically what it does is it temporarily suppresses estrogen in your ovaries Speaker 4
Okay. Speaker 6
Estrogen production. So it's just temporary. Okay. But it kinda holds it at bay. And so after radiation, I'll get to go and go into full menopause with other meds and stuff. Speaker 0
Oh, congratulations. Speaker 4
Thank you Speaker 3
so much. Congratulations. Yeah. It's it's a lot. It's a lot. So much. And and for me, it was like a whole year, you know, chemo or I started with chemo and then had a double mastectomy and then did radiation. And it's something that is always it just becomes part of you. Mhmm. And you never really are through it. You always are thinking about it, but you can beat it. And then when you beat it, you can kinda get on with your life. And so, I it sounds like you have a good plan, and that was always something that was so important to me. Because it's that feeling of not a plan or not knowing. Right? Like, just having this, like, dark cloud mystery. Well, what's next? What's gonna happen? If you trust your doctors, if you have a good plan, if you lean into the plan, if you keep a positive mindset, and and do things that make you happy. For me, I wasn't married yet. I didn't have kids. It was work. So I worked as much as I possibly could. Speaker 2
Yeah. Speaker 3
And it sounds like you have a wonderful support system. So that's just me giving you advice, like, being somebody that that's gone through it. How are you keeping a a strong, positive mindset as as best you can? I know it's hard and we all have our weak moments. Yeah. No. Absolutely. But how are you Speaker 6
kinda trying to do that? So I so I attribute my positive outlook and my ability to cope and process So I've learned to not, like, suppress emotions anymore. You have very traumatic childhood. Lots of bad things happened. But I went to therapy about five years ago and did about two years, two and a half years of really intensive therapy. EMDR, all kinds of things. And so I think that has prepared me to deal with this. Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 6
And so whereas I feel like the the me before therapy would have suppressed my emotions, I probably would have found some very bad coping mechanisms. The me now, I can talk to my husband, and I'm like, okay, well, I'm having a bad day, and I just don't wanna talk to anybody right now. And I can verbalize that, and being able to lean on the the people that are closest to me, you know, and even, like because I come up with some of the most, you know, like, you know, some of the most ridiculous scenarios where Speaker 3
I'm like, I remember when I Speaker 6
was going through chemo and my foot hurt. Speaker 4
I was Speaker 6
like, oh, god. It's in my feet. Because it woke me up. Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 6
It's like so I'm texting my friend who's a nurse practitioner. She's actually be here soon. I was like, Speaker 3
oh my god. I think Speaker 6
the cancer and whatever. She's like, no. It's okay. Yeah. It'll be okay. Speaker 3
Like, that's just like any other person that's foot that their foot hurts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 5
Make your foot to sleep. Speaker 0
Go back to bed. Don't You got a cramp. Speaker 3
Right. The mental battle is big. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Speaker 6
All these stupid things that are happening in my head. Like, another one was, you know so I'm a nurse. And so when I one of the things that did not stop growing through chemo was my nails. And so, you know, me and whatever was happening in this thing was, like, what if? Because I've heard about people's nails falling off during chemo. Like, what if they just grow out a certain amount? Because they're done growing because of chemo, and then your nail just grows out, and then you're done. And I was like, that's so disgusting. Why? Speaker 3
Why is this a thing? Speaker 0
Why do I think about this stuff? Exactly. Okay. So tell me about your military background Speaker 4
Yes. Speaker 0
And how you two met. Speaker 3
So Speaker 0
Oh, it's Speaker 3
a good one. Speaker 6
It's gonna be good. I'm a nurse in the army, and so I'm with the the the unit I'm with is the three eleventh Field Hospital, and we're based out of Ohio. And they're the ones that are in Honduras right now doing a lot of humanitarian work because it's we're all medical. And so that's what I've been doing for about five years. And so I joined very late. I'd already been a nurse for a long time and then joined. He is a marine. He's a first sergeant in the marine corps, and he's been a marine for twenty one years. Technically, Speaker 4
I just Speaker 6
I outrank him. Speaker 0
Oh, I love it. Speaker 5
No. No. We're gonna five Speaker 0
I love it. Speaker 3
Love this. It's so it's very strange. Like, how do I say this? I outrank him. Speaker 6
Yeah. Which is a cool perk. Yeah. Put in, like, no work into it, and he's worked his butt off the into his entire military career and done all kinds of incredible things. So, like, I know in my unit, my senior NCO is my noncommissioned officers. They're the ones with the knowledge, you know. And so I know that that's him. Like, he's got so much knowledge about the military and all kinds of things and just very, very amazing. But I just wanna make sure I threw that in. I know what you do out right now. Yeah. That was it. Speaker 5
Yeah. So I'll cover how we met though because Yeah. She'll probably romanticize it and it's not romantic. So I'm on Facebook like I usually was in this super hot, like, literally the most beautiful girl I'd ever seen in my entire life was like a friend request. I was like, it's a bot. It's catfish. Either way, I gotta know. So I was like, I'll send a friend request. And then she accepted. I was like, oh, this is this is fake. I was like, so I ignored it like all the other catfishes that are out there because no one is this beautiful. Right? Speaker 6
No. I had hair. It was Speaker 0
And she's the most beautiful girl I've Speaker 5
ever seen. Even I know she's the most beautiful girl I've ever seen because even as a Baldy, I was like, oh, this is this is great. And she got ready super fast. So we won't go into She got ready super fast. Yeah. Perk. Date nights are, like, ten minutes. Yeah. So I sent a friend request, and then, like, four months later, she sent me a message and said something about, you know, what's your story? And I was like, well, I'm not drunk in Tijuana. It was it wasn't that kind of petting zoo. Yeah. Wait. What story are you talking about? Yeah. And then she came back with something super quirky. I was like, oh. Oh. Oh. Just like DeMarcus is like, I don't wanna marry her. She doesn't know it yet because, you know, she's gonna, like, file a restraining order and all these other things. But I was like, I wanna marry her. She just doesn't know it yet. And sure enough, eventually, one day, I convinced her. And here we are. Speaker 3
So So Speaker 5
Facebook for the win. Speaker 0
Yeah. Okay. Speaker 3
I love it. A modern day romance. Speaker 6
So I'm half pal I'm Although Facebook's old, I guess. And so I was born and raised overseas in the Middle East. And so I moved to the US when I was seventeen. He had never heard me speak before, but he knew because we'd started talking through Messenger, you know, hey, you know, I was, you know, he was like, where are you from? And whatever. And for people who are raised somewhere else, that's a loaded question. You know, it's like, I'm I'm from here but I was born and then I was raised. So one of the first things this man says to me when we meet is your English is impeccable. Speaker 3
You're like, thanks. Speaker 5
I I spend a lot of time in the Middle East. Right? Speaker 2
Right. Speaker 5
So I've spoke to a lot of people who don't speak good English and so whenever we met at a brewery because our love language is beer, I was like, wow. Her English, I can understand her. This is good. Speaker 3
After a few beers, you told her she had great English? Yeah. It was before Speaker 5
the first beer, but I was like, you know what? Speaker 3
I'm gonna Speaker 4
go to all of them. Speaker 5
There's no way she's gonna date me again because Yeah. Now she sees me because I photoshopped my pictures. There's there's no way I was gonna get a second date. So I was gonna throw it all out there and here we are. So And Speaker 0
so how long have you been married? Speaker 3
It'll be six years Speaker 4
Yeah. Speaker 6
In December. Speaker 2
Okay. Speaker 6
This is actually I knew I was gonna get cancer so this was all part of the plan. I Speaker 0
just wanna Speaker 6
make sure I had a husband first. Speaker 3
Yeah. I'm right. Speaker 6
Solid, really work on that marriage and then Speaker 3
I like it. You planned ahead. Speaker 6
I did. And I did catfish him in a way. Speaker 3
Well, I I know the feeling. Right? Like, I know the feeling. We weren't married yet, but we were dating and Kelly proposed while I was going through chemo. So it was like, what do do I say yes? Like, do I wanna be a burden to this human when I don't know what's even gonna happen? But the support from a loving husband or fiance, or if you don't have that and you're going through this and you're going through cancer, the support of of somebody who loves you and cares for you is so important. How are you doing your best to support her? Because I can tell you are. Speaker 5
So it it's interesting because we love the pink. We love Susan g Komen. We love everything about the community. Everyone I guarantee you, if we walk through this facility right now, we can find someone touched by not just cancer, but by breast cancer. Right? We'll find somebody. The support can they're there. They're all over the place. But being the caretaker, if you even wanna call that, because she takes care of herself, it's interesting because it's like, you still have this whole life you have to live. You still have jobs you have to work, but you wanna be there for the most important person in your life. And you have to understand what they're going through, why they're going through it, the trying to be positive. Well, sometimes you have to say, yep. This does suck. Because I'm always the positive guy like, well, it could be this. It could be worse. No. She taught Speaker 3
me not. Speaker 0
Foot cancer. Speaker 5
Yeah. You could have foot cancer. Speaker 3
Right through. Speaker 6
And that would work. Don't. Speaker 5
And so you have to learn, like, you know what? Today is a bad day and today sucks. And you have every right Yep. And you have every right to feel like today sucks because that's your right. And there's not always a silver lining. But then the next day might be different. And so supporting her and supporting others and then knowing that there's there are people out there who don't have that support network, and we're learning about that now. Like, even going after the season, she come and walk this a couple weeks ago, and you see people kind of out there by themselves. It's like you don't have to be by yourself. You don't have to go through this alone. You have complete strangers like yourself who who you've been through it and you can relate. Let me walk with you. And so we wanna be part of that going forward. Like, hey. You don't have to go through this alone. You might be single. You might be this you might not have family, might not have a support system. I guarantee you there are people who are willing to support you. Speaker 0
Yeah. That's awesome. Speaker 3
And and lastly, for you guys, and and especially, I guess, you, Charlie, dealing with the things you deal with in the day to day. Right? So you talked about property taxes and school districts and day to day problems. How does this change your perspective? Speaker 5
Oh, it's changed a lot. In fact, the the running joke is I only got reelected to my second term because of her. Because while we we got the diagnosis during my second campaign, and there was actually a couple people who thought we were faking it to get elected. Speaker 0
Oh, no. And Speaker 5
so but I'm I'm a marine. She's a captain. So we had the dark You're like, whatever. We're gonna we're gonna lean into this. We're like, hey. Thank you so much, babe, for getting me reelected. I I appreciate it. And after I got reelected, we're like, well, I guess you have to keep the cancer in case I wanna do something else. Speaker 0
Keep the cancer. Speaker 6
Yes. He went out and did chemo, you would have like, we're committed now. Yeah. Speaker 2
We're we're Speaker 6
getting this. Right. Speaker 0
We're keeping this cancer. Yes. Speaker 5
But at the at the dais, the night that I got sworn in the second time, I I made a commitment that every minute that I give the city is a minute that I take away from her or the kids. So I'll make sure it's a meaningful minute. Like, I won't go to events in the evening unless it matters to Fort Worth, matters to the district. It matters to us personally, and that's why we're here right now because it matters. But it makes me almost want to, like, really, like, reach out and choke some residents every now and then. Like, if this is truly the most important thing in your life, you are so lucky. If that pothole that you email me about thirty times a day is seriously and genuinely the most important part. Speaker 3
It's probably something else going on with them. Speaker 4
Yeah. Yes. Speaker 3
It's not the pothole. Speaker 0
Oh. Speaker 3
They're unhappy. Speaker 5
But if Speaker 3
the mass Speaker 5
you are so lucky. Because imagine if one of your loved ones was going through the fight of their life. And you had to look at them every day and, like like, we didn't sleep in the same bed for almost four and a half weeks after her double mastectomy because she had to sleep in the recliner. And I couldn't sleep in the recliner with her because it just wasn't comfortable for her. I tried. Speaker 3
Yeah. Uh-huh. Speaker 5
So it for me on council, it put things in perspective especially as I try to, like, leave the city better than I found I I I found it. It's like, what's truly important in life? Yep. And not that that pothole is not important. I'm just saying let's put things in perspective. Speaker 3
Yeah. Speaker 5
I would certainly for me put things in perspective and I will use my time wisely and the people of district four that elected me, I think they can appreciate that and if they don't then you know what? At the end of the day, this is all I care about. Speaker 0
Yeah. Speaker 3
So That's wonderful. Speaker 0
Okay. So what what is next for you? How can we how can we support you? How can we send you positive vibes and when should we do that? Speaker 5
Vote for me in the next next oh oh, sorry. Sorry. We already got elected once. There, mom. Speaker 1
Sorry. Sorry. Speaker 6
We can't use the cancer. Speaker 1
No. No. No. Speaker 5
No. Foot cancer. Foot cancer. Speaker 3
Foot cancer. Yeah. Speaker 6
So I think talking about it talking about it. I I came into this as a nurse. My only real experience with breast cancer is when I was much younger, my my aunt died of breast cancer, and I was a hospice nurse. So being a hospice nurse definitely did not prepare me for this. But again, even as a nurse, I came into this, like, I don't know how you're supposed to feel. Nobody talks about it. Like, everybody like, we have so one in eight women are gonna be diagnosed with breast cancer in their lifetime. Every single person has breast tissue. Any person who has breast tissue can develop breast cancer. Men, woman, doesn't matter. But we don't talk about it. You know? And then there was and it's even talking to some of my other girlfriends who've been diagnosed, it's like there's some it seems like there's some aspect of it being taboo because they're breasts. Yeah. Breasts are so much more than just, you know, something for Pim. You know? And so and I think but I think it's that. It's like, well, it's making people uncomfortable. Okay. Well, they need to be uncomfortable. Speaker 0
Yeah. And I think too a lot of times, like, for for me, I've run into this with, a few of my friends that have have been diagnosed with breast cancer. You don't know what to say. You don't know what to say. You feel stupid. The shit that comes out of your mouth, you're like, god, why did I say that? Like, I it still happens. Like, I'll say stuff to Julie, and I'm like, why did I say that? That was the dumbest thing ever, and she still loves me. But it's like, you just you're you don't know what to say because you don't wanna be awkward, but then that's all you are is just awkward. Speaker 6
I'm awkward. Yeah. Speaker 3
We're all awkward. I think yeah. Speaker 5
The other day, Speaker 4
we were Speaker 5
at Hooters for lunch of all places. I was Speaker 0
That's amazing. Speaker 5
Ice cream and wings. I I go there for the wings. Sure. But we're there and it was it was breast cancer awareness month and this waitress comes by this super sweet girl. She's like, happy breast because I was wearing my pink boots like I always do. Speaker 0
Happy breast cancer awareness. Speaker 5
And I was like it was a very nice clap, but I'm Speaker 4
she Speaker 5
walked away like, Speaker 0
why did I do that? Yeah. Speaker 5
But the thing is she's talking about it. Speaker 4
It. Yeah. Speaker 5
Like, at the city of Fort Worth, we're talking about it. We have a mobile mammogram unit coming out in a couple weeks. Let's talk about it. We don't we we talk about the pink, but we don't talk about what happens with the scars and the surgeries and the draining of the bulbs and the the the good and the bad. Speaker 3
Oh my gosh. That's the worst, those drains. Yes. Speaker 4
And and Speaker 5
like They're terrible. Stripping my wife more than anyone else, but it's separate when you're stripping drains. Speaker 3
Yep. Speaker 5
Right? But that's part of it. And then talking to to other caretakers going through, it's like, here's what you're gonna have to deal with. It's not always fun and games. Like, there's the dirty, the ugly, the but it's what you go through. And then she's fight like, I've been overseas eight times. I've been in combat. You name it. I've never seen a more ferocious spider than this woman right here. Yeah. She's already gone back to work. She's already giving back to the community. She's giving back to other people in our neighborhood who are going through it who didn't know how to respond to being diagnosed with breast cancer. And she's talking about it, and she's telling them, here's what's gonna happen next. Here's the answers you're not getting. Don't go to Google. Go to someone who's gone. Speaker 3
Never go to Google. Yeah. That's one thing I like. Speaker 0
That Google will give you foot cancer. Speaker 4
It's good. Speaker 5
You're not careful. Speaker 3
For sure. Google has nothing good. No. Well, we are so glad that y'all joined us here today. We're I'm always here for you. Susan g Komen, always here for you for anybody that's going through this battle. And I'm here if you want me to Speaker 0
say something super awkward and make you feel uncomfortable. Speaker 3
Breast cancer. Yeah. Happy breast cancer. You. Happy breast cancer, buddy. Well, we can't wait to hear about how things go and talk to you when you're on the other side because you will Yeah. Get there. Speaker 6
Thank you. And this Speaker 4
will all be Speaker 3
in the rearview mirror and you'll get back to those five, maybe six kids. Yeah. Speaker 5
Depending on Speaker 6
the day if we join. Speaker 0
Right. For sure. Speaker 3
Yeah. Well, thank you all so much for joining us. We really truly appreciate it and and good luck with your big job. Yeah. Speaker 5
Well, I appreciate that. And maybe the foot cancer won't get us reelected again. We'll we'll see. We'll see. Speaker 0
Well, we end every episode by looking at the camera, throwing up the peace signs, and saying mom game out. It's kind of our cheesy little bit to end the show. We've done it for five years. We're not stopping now. Speaker 3
Mom game out. Speaker 4
Mom game out. Speaker 3
We can have every can everyone stay with us? Oh, yeah. Why don't we do everybody? Everybody, mom game out. It's on the peace sign. We'll go one, Speaker 4
two, three. Speaker 3
You don't have to Speaker 4
do it. Speaker 0
The peace signs and say mom game Speaker 3
out. Yeah. Speaker 0
You ready? One. One. Two. Three. Mom game out. 
